Maggie versus Lisa versus Mr. Burns versus Stewie [with poll]

I'm hanging out at the New Organizing Institute's training of young political organizers.  It's an intense seven day experience where trainees learn from top people in the various parts of campaigns - field, media, organizer, technology, research.  During the day, they sit through grueling days of powerpoints.  In the evening, they are split up into teams, each one of which is given a cartoon character to elect as President.

Here are the different campaigns.  If you like a team, sign up for more information.  Like good organizers, they are rapaciously after your email address.

Maggie Simpson

Stewie from Family Guy

Draft Homer

Lisa Simpson

Apu

There are a few more candidates, but I can't find their websites.  I did enjoy the attack video by Mr. Burns and Lisa has a statement out on Scooter Libby.

You can track the campaign at the NOI blog.  These NOI folk are going to be running our campaigns for a long time to come.

I'm leaning Lisa, but the Burns video is nice.  And I'm wondering when polling data is coming out.

Update [2007-7-5 14:15:11 by Matt Stoller]: Here's the website for Mr. Burns.

Update [2007-7-5 15:14:25 by Matt Stoller]: New polling numbers are out.

Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Total
Lisa: 22%, 3% 15% 14%
Homer: 15% 1% 15% 9%
Bart: 15% 1% 14% 9%
Krusty: 3% 31% 14% 16%
Maggie: 23% 2% 12% 15%
Stewie: 19% 2% 14% 10%
Mr. Burns 3% 60% 16% 27%


As you can see, both Lisa and Maggie are struggling for the same pot of voters, and neither has managed to solidify their liberal base. A cruel Mr. Burns has reaped much of the authoritarian right, with the 'maverick' Krusty sweeping a fair number of independents into his camp and keeping him competitive. I'm surprised by Stewie's poor showing among Republicans and his strength among Democratic voters, which is clearly hurting the more liberal candidates in the race. His message blurring is effectively peeling off votes from the similarly young Maggie, while possibly losing some Republicans who might otherwise be attracted to his youthful viciousness. Burns has the strongest message, focusing on terrorism, national security, and his own penchant for dominance. And while independent voters may not like him, they know where he stands. The MyDD poll is ongoing, so keep voting (and like good liberals, MyDD readers are going for Lisa by large margins).

Update [2007-7-6 0:3:3 by Matt Stoller]:: And here's Krusty's site.


Poll
Who are you leaning towards in 2008?
Maggie
Lisa
Homer
Mr. Burns
Apu
Krusty
Bart
Al Gore

Votes: 35
Results : Vote Link : Polls

Display:


Re: Maggie versus Lisa versus Mr. Burns versus Ste (3.00 / 1)

Being on the Lisa team, I obviously voted for Lisa.

I gotta admit, though, the Burns video is hilarious.

Nirmal


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by whogotthegravy on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 11:55:49 AM EST

Mock Iowa Caucus at Yearly Kos (none / 0)

We will be running a session at Yearly Kos that will feature a Mock Iowa Caucus, probably among historic figures.  This will not involve the current or rumored 2008 candidates.  The point is to understand the fine points of strategy within the caucus process itself once the work is done to get folks to show up.  I'd appreciate suggestions, etc.


by howardpark on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 12:13:30 PM EST

Re: Mock Iowa Caucus at Yearly Kos (none / 0)

geez that's a great idea. I'll have to check out that session. It's such an alien process to most of us.


by DMIer on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 01:14:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Mock Iowa Caucus at Yearly Kos (none / 0)

That sounds like fun.  I'll try and make that one.


by Melissa Ryan on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 01:37:27 PM EST
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Re: Maggie versus Lisa versus Mr. Burns versus Ste (none / 0)

I love this contest. I've spammed all my friends that even ones that don't work in politics to vote.


by DMIer on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 12:13:31 PM EST

Re: Maggie versus Lisa versus Mr. Burns versus Ste (3.00 / 1)

Fun!  

One point about the Burns attack ad -- great example of how what sounds like a short amount of time (a few seconds) feels like a long, long time on video.  

I'd consider cutting the time spend on each visual by a factor of two...or possibly accelerate from slow to fast.  

Also, where's the shot of Pvt. Burns dutifully serving his glorious, prosperous nation back in WWII as part of the greatest generation? :-)


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by brahn on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 12:48:13 PM EST

Oh, Those Grueling Powerpoints! (none / 0)

Isn't there something about them in the Geneva Conventions?


by Paul Rosenberg on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 12:49:41 PM EST

Re: Oh, Those Grueling Powerpoints! (none / 0)

Geneva Conven-what?


by Matt Stoller on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 12:59:17 PM EST
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Re: Oh, Those Grueling Powerpoints! (none / 0)

Didn't the Bushies erase those from history?


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by yitbos96bb on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 02:51:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]

They Give You Overwhelming Sensation of Drowning (none / 0)

in Bullet Points, Bar Charts, and Pie-In-The-Face Charts.


by Paul Rosenberg on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 03:33:10 PM EST
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Electability (none / 0)

I think that I might have to vote for Mr. Burns as only he is electable.


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by ltsply2 on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 12:51:38 PM EST

Re: Electability (3.00 / 1)

I'm not sure that this country is ready to elect a 123-year-old yellow cartoon character as president, but prove me wrong!

I noticed Burns went to Yale. Was he in Skull and Bones?


by jcullen on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 01:06:43 PM EST
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Re: Electability (none / 0)

Skull.  Bones didn't merge with Skull until the 1830s.


by palamedes on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 03:11:15 PM EST
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Re: Electability (3.00 / 0)

I'm not sure that this country is ready to elect a 123-year-old yellow cartoon character as president, but prove me wrong!
Didn't we already do that with Bush/Cheney?


by Paul Rosenberg on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 03:38:34 PM EST
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Re: Electability (none / 0)

COMMENT OF THE DAY!

ROTFLMAO!!!


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by yitbos96bb on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 04:53:24 PM EST
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Re: Maggie versus Lisa versus Mr. Burns (none / 0)

Great contest.  I voted for Apu since he is the anti-Mr. Burns.  


by John Mills on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 12:59:41 PM EST

Re: Maggie versus Lisa versus Mr. Burns versus Ste (none / 0)

I'm torn between Lisa and Maggie.  Lisa's statement on Libby was wonderful, but that clip of Maggie liberating the toddlers showed true leadership!


by Melissa Ryan on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 01:38:42 PM EST

Re: Maggie versus Lisa versus Mr. Burns versus Ste (none / 0)

As a member of Team Lisa, I have to remind you that a vote for Lisa is the Intelligent Choice!


Liberal, Loud, Proud
by LiberalLucy on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 01:58:13 PM EST
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Re: Maggie versus Lisa versus Mr. Burns versus Ste (1.00 / 1)

How do you post a Youtube video? I just tried and it didn't work in my diary here http://pope_jeremy.mydd.com/story/2007/7 /5/133754/6274

Can you help me?

Thanks!


by Pope Jeremy on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 01:41:00 PM EST

Re: Maggie versus Lisa versus Mr. Burns versus Ste (none / 0)

Add Stewie to the poll! He's been endorsed by Al Gore:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUikGEHZz EM

And Bill Clinton:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKcZY439j A4


by blueflame on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 01:43:45 PM EST

Burns URL (none / 0)

Please update:
Burns is at Burns08.org
by patricks54 on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 01:49:07 PM EST

Burns For President (none / 0)

Burns 08

Vote Burns!


"Keep the Faith"
by blue south on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 01:49:09 PM EST

Draft Homer Simpson! (none / 0)

For all you HOMER FANS: Visit our website and sign up to Draft Homer by helping him decide which issues matter to the people! Barack Obama has already endorsed Homer Simpson, and he is by far the most qualified candidate in the race. He has held over 100 jobs in his lifetime that add up to real experience. Please Help Homer Now!!!
by Draft Homer on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 01:51:20 PM EST

Lisa = The Real Liberal (3.00 / 1)

and the only Liberal.

I'm pretty sure that Mr. Burns was one of Dubya's superfunders...


Liberal, Loud, Proud
by LiberalLucy on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 01:59:18 PM EST

Re: Lisa = The Real Liberal (none / 0)

Lisa is unqualified to hold office.  Why does Lisa have such little respect for the constitution?


"Keep the Faith"
by blue south on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 02:00:24 PM EST
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Re: Maggie versus Lisa versus Mr. Burns versus Ste (3.00 / 1)

I gotta say that bringing in Kyle Stoneman for the Lisa squad is kind of like the episode of simpsons where Mr. Burns stacks the company softball team with pro-players (Homer at Bat).

Stoneman's a ringer.


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by Adam Conner on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 02:10:28 PM EST

Polling numbers in! (3.00 / 1)

http://neworganizing.com/blog/2007/07/br eaking-national-polls-in.html#links


by patricks54 on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 02:41:59 PM EST

Re: Polling numbers in! (none / 0)

Clearly those polling numbers are from the same team who's done nothing but a unleash a campaign of fear and terror.

Which sounds strikingly familiar to a certain most-hated president....

Just sayin


Liberal, Loud, Proud
by LiberalLucy on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 02:46:17 PM EST
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Re: Polling numbers in! (none / 0)

How sad.

Impugning Survey USA simply because they dont like the results.


"Keep the Faith"
by blue south on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 03:00:28 PM EST
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Re: Maggie versus Lisa versus Mr. Burns versus Ste (none / 0)

Damn, we need a Draft Underdog movement.  Smart, Humble, Powerful and the best theme song of all time.  


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by yitbos96bb on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 02:50:00 PM EST

Re: Maggie versus Lisa versus Mr. Burns versus Ste (3.00 / 1)

This is freakin hysterical!  Thanks for sharing it with us Matt.


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by yitbos96bb on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 02:52:43 PM EST

The Choice is Clear (none / 0)

The poll numbers clearly show that thanks to the institutional stupidity of those silly ideologues on the Left, they've ran far too many candidates. Dumber than the Greens!

A Mr. Burns/Stewie candidacy (damn those 500,000 Dem donors!), along with their media connections and incredible PR skills, could Swift Boat any silly lil' Lisa campaign. How could anyone elect someone who hates on the grand American tradition of Malibu Stacy? With Burn's cash, Flying Hellfish connections, and Stewie's masterful diplomatic skills in dealing with tinpot dictators, they could solve North Korea, Iran, and loose nukes in a heartbeat, all while making the right people even more fabulously wealthy! And when Burns dies/goes into cryogenic stasis, Stewie is ready to be our Unitary Executive for centuries (see his stem cell research support)!

I mean, c'mon! Homer's a silly drunk, Apu's a furrener, and Krusty's a Jew - err, washed up pillpopping Pee Wee!

Now Bart, with his outsider image and lovable scamplike qualities, has the best chance, but I'm sure the PC crowd will be alienated by his fart jokes and hatred of cooties.

Maggie, well, she has a chance, given that the America's Funniest Home Videos crowd - err, the Heartland, will love her with a few well placed TV ads prominently featuring her cooing and appealing for more childcare (bling pacifiers).


by DupinTM on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 03:06:35 PM EST

Re: Maggie versus Lisa versus Mr. Burns versus Ste (none / 0)

On what is the polling based?


by Democraticavenger on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 03:18:22 PM EST

Go Maggie! (none / 0)

As someone who worked with the "Maggie for President" team at the NOI training on Monday, I'm certainly pulling for Maggie.

She's by far the best candidate -- and has the best campaign staff working for her... ;-)

Go Maggie!!


by sfbrentb on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 03:31:08 PM EST

AFL/CIO Endorses Homer Simpson (none / 0)

Throughout his life, Homer Simpson has held over 100 jobs spanning across all industries and employment sectors. As a union leader, Homer put his blood, sweat, and tears into saving the dental plan for his fellow power plant workers. The AFL/CIO today endorsed Homer Simpson, saying he "is a working man, and he understands the plight of those who roll up their sleeves every day." Homer is calling on members of the United States Senate to do their job and pass the Employee Free Choice Act immediately. Further, Homer will push Congress to pass a Living Wage in the first 24 hours of his term. "As President, Homer Simpson will work hard for those who work hard," said an AFL/CIO official. <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/o3Rvua1C5KA"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/o3Rvua1C5KA" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>
by Draft Homer on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 06:04:08 PM EST

Al Gore endorses Stewie Griffin (none / 0)

boo-yeah!

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by excinit on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 09:51:33 PM EST

Re: Maggie versus Lisa versus Mr. Burns versus Ste (none / 0)

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by excinit on Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 09:51:47 PM EST

The ad is misleading.... (none / 0)

Of course what else would you expect from a lying hack like Burns?

Here's a pic of Lisa and Bart doing military training at Rommelwood Military Academy:

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u39/d jtyg/The_Simpsons_4F21.png

VOTE FOR LISA!


by djtyg on Fri Jul 06, 2007 at 03:58:05 AM EST

NOI President Endorses Maggie Simpson! (none / 0)

In a surprise move, Zack Exley, President of the New Organizing Institute endorsed Maggie Simpson for President in front of the White House this afternoon. Zack said to the press, "Hey Guys over here! I'm endorsing my friend Maggie Simpson for President. She's going to shake things up. She's out in the streets, organizing people and making people come together for a better, more progressive America. She's going to lead the revolution."


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